Most Hated Varrios

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Most Hated Varrios

Unread post by advocate » August 10th, 2012, 11:25 pm

Which varrios are the most hated or have the most enemies? Some of the obvious are 18St, CV Tortilla Flats, Florencia & MS, but are there other neighborhoods that are hated as much as those 4 or have as many beefs? I know some other hoods just dont like them & there may not be a real intense war going on, but they still hate them regardless. When I was out in the valley a few years back, a friend of mine told me that Blythe St & San Fer were 2 of the most hated out there in the SFV & that they really didnt get along with anyone. So what other varrios would you consider to be real "Everybody/Anybody Killer" type of hoods?

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Re: Most Hated Varrios

Unread post by youngspade » August 13th, 2012, 9:43 am

Pbs?
38st
Longos

To name a few

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Unread post by alexalonso » September 26th, 2012, 2:05 pm

When you ask what is most hated, you are asking which gang has the most geographic rivals. The "hate" you are talking about is based on the level of rivalry. For example, 62 Six Duece Brims which are bloods are geographically surrounded by Crip rivals.

Just not sure what "most hated" actually means. Is there a most beloved or most liked gang?

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Unread post by advocate » September 26th, 2012, 11:31 pm

Basically hoods that are hated by just about everyone....they got a long list of enemies (whether they actually war with them or not, they are still hated by alot of other hoods). CVTF are geographically surrounded by enemies as well, but they are hated by alot of other hoods that arent geographically around them.

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Unread post by youngspade » September 27th, 2012, 11:44 am

advocate wrote:Basically hoods that are hated by just about everyone....they got a long list of enemies (whether they actually war with them or not, they are still hated by alot of other hoods). CVTF are geographically surrounded by enemies as well, but they are hated by alot of other hoods that arent geographically around them.
I got your drift

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Unread post by alexalonso » February 5th, 2013, 8:50 pm

using that definition then the most hated varrio would be all the 18th Street hoods

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Unread post by bgcasper » February 13th, 2013, 9:27 pm

in compton cvtf owns the title hands up

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Unread post by judastaugamma » February 14th, 2013, 4:24 pm

san fernando valley - i say blythe street

san gabriel valley - just guessing maybe el monte flores

northeast l.a. - definitely avenidas

east l.a. - for sure the maravillas if you count them as one

central l.a. - 18th and mara salvatrucha are probably tie but i'll say ms just because of the centro hate even though they got chicanos too and 18th has tons of centros. i just because ms has salva in its name.

west l.a. - culver city

harbor area - longos even though i think wilmas is more vicious.

pomona - obviously 12 street sharkies


pretty much all depends on size or geography. bigger you are or closer to your enemies.

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Re: Most Hated Varrios

Unread post by advocate » February 21st, 2013, 1:03 am

I got a good friend staying in the valley who said the same about Blythe St...that they were probably the most hated. I did wonder though if hoods like San Fer or Vineland were hated the same way by everyone else out there.

CV70 was another varrio that seemed to be hated alot like the Flats. I dont know if they are hated in neighboring cities (Lynwood, Paramount) like the Flats are though, but I seen a lot of different hoods strike up the "70K".

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Re: Most Hated Varrios

Unread post by AztecNinja » February 21st, 2013, 7:57 am

judastaugamma wrote:san fernando valley - i say blythe street

san gabriel valley - just guessing maybe el monte flores

northeast l.a. - definitely avenidas

east l.a. - for sure the maravillas if you count them as one

central l.a. - 18th and mara salvatrucha are probably tie but i'll say ms just because of the centro hate even though they got chicanos too and 18th has tons of centros. i just because ms has salva in its name.

west l.a. - culver city

harbor area - longos even though i think wilmas is more vicious.

pomona - obviously 12 street sharkies


pretty much all depends on size or geography. bigger you are or closer to your enemies.
Pretty accurate but in the SGV Id say Lomas SSG, in Pomona id say Cherryville, in Boyle heights tie between WF and PF and BH. East LA is predominantly MV and I know The Lott brought the noise to them so since MV is the majority Id say The Lott or maybe GLoma would be the most hated.

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Unread post by judastaugamma » February 22nd, 2013, 1:57 am

i just guessed flores because they deep in sgv and right in the middle.

i think size and geography plays a big part.

question about lomas, aztec. don't know much about sgv but asian gangs. what is their full name? i just heard of them as lomas. what is their official barrio name and initials? where are they located? i knew a homie who got locked up shooting 4-5 of them at mark keppel high. mark keppel is in alhambra/MP. but i hear they in rosemead. others say south san gabriel. i even heard they were in montebello.

when i say east la, i meant east side l.a. east la uninc, boyle, lincoln, sereno, etc.

i say mv because i've seen the mv hate in county. i usually come back from court with them in the same holding cells. a lot of cell woofing against the mv because of the verde.

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Unread post by judastaugamma » February 22nd, 2013, 2:04 am

and cherrieville is more hated than sharkies? isn't cherrieville much smaller though? and p12 beef with a lot of i.e., transplant l.a. and sgv varrios.

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Unread post by judastaugamma » February 22nd, 2013, 2:22 am

advocate wrote:I got a good friend staying in the valley who said the same about Blythe St...that they were probably the most hated. I did wonder though if hoods like San Fer or Vineland were hated the same way by everyone else out there.
geography that's why. they right in the middle. panorama city is right next to pacoima/arleta. their hood is a couple blocks east of sepulveda. (ms/lst/cst/vct) you take roscoe east past woodman and you're in sun valley (vbs). their hood is also near van nuys-panorama border so they beef with vn barrios (bvn, vsls).

that whole panorama/van nuys/north hills was also were the asian gangs were in sfv during 80's-90's. so they bumped heads with them as well. most notably abz in valerio.

what made their beefs worst was drugs. bst territory was prime dealing territory. a lot of fools trying to get a piece of bst pie, even l.a. barrios. then the gang injunction on blythe came 90's and they sort of moved towards valerio. things heated up more in van nuys.

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Unread post by judastaugamma » February 22nd, 2013, 2:29 am

advocate wrote:I got a good friend staying in the valley who said the same about Blythe St...that they were probably the most hated. I did wonder though if hoods like San Fer or Vineland were hated the same way by everyone else out there.

CV70 was another varrio that seemed to be hated alot like the Flats. I dont know if they are hated in neighboring cities (Lynwood, Paramount) like the Flats are though, but I seen a lot of different hoods strike up the "70K".
oh and blythe beef with bryant street in northridge too because of bst initials.

san fer is isolated. they have a huge barrio but sf and sylmar is far from everyone. only one next to them are the pacas.

vineland is hated too but no one goes to sun valley. so they mainly bump heads with noho varrios. though pacas and sol valle has long time hate.

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Unread post by MARTINEZ » February 22nd, 2013, 8:14 am

judastaugamma wrote:
east l.a. - for sure the maravillas if you count them as one

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since all the MV gangs make up appx 75% of East Los unicorporated

you need to ask them WHO they hate the most?

wink, wink, nudge, nudge :P

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Unread post by MARTINEZ » February 22nd, 2013, 8:21 am

AztecNinja wrote: . East LA is predominantly MV and I know The Lott brought the noise to them so since MV is the majority Id say The Lott or maybe GLoma would be the most hated.
Geraghty didnt unleash hell on the Maravilla gangs did (the mostly just hit Lopez MV)

THE LOTT 13 rained bullets on all of them ... across the board. Werent seletive of only a few ... homies said, Fuck 'em all

THE LOTT 13 was hitting up & being MV Killers waaaaaaaaaaay before they ever got the verde (1993)

THE LOTT 13 sustained consistant wars with all bordering MV gangs at the same time ... Geraghty did not.



just look at when they hit up their enemy list... i've never seen any MV gang put GL above THE LOTT 13

they always wack LOTT~13 out 1st

there's a very good reason for that 8)

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Unread post by judastaugamma » February 22nd, 2013, 8:37 am

MARTINEZ wrote:
judastaugamma wrote:
east l.a. - for sure the maravillas if you count them as one

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since all the MV gangs make up appx 75% of East Los unicorporated

you need to ask them WHO they hate the most?

wink, wink, nudge, nudge :P
well that's true. most of east los is mv so it would be lott.

but i was going by east los side. counting boyle height, etc.

plus i was going off who is most hated FROM that area (meaning who is most hated by ppl even outside that area) not necessarily who ppl in that area.

or else i can't say longos in LB. longos is biggest barrio(s) in LB. i'd have to name longos enemies.

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Unread post by AztecNinja » February 23rd, 2013, 2:35 am

Lomas SSG is South San Gabriel, but there is also a gang SSG which is South San Gabriel, they had land in Rosemead even border Montebello when at their peak. They had quite "cleaned their own back yard" which end up splittieng the gang into 2 factions, not clicks cuz Lomas has no clicks. But they had a faction called the Flatlanders and they didnt like the Hills, there somemurders attributed to the in house quarreling. This really affected their recruiting. Not to mention the influx of asians to the area. But at one point those fools were with the biz. They were banging on anyone around them. They even beefed with LA gangs. VNE, WF, PF. I chose Cherryville cuz they were a green light gang in Pomona, the very first verde I ever heard of was on them.

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Unread post by MARTINEZ » February 23rd, 2013, 11:04 am

yup

Cherryville was the very first "verde" gang i ever heard of too, back in the mid 1980's

they had the shit for long ass time too

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so v. Lomas has no cliques :shock:

I never knew that.

what a trip, that was supposed to eliminate any clique tripping, huh?

but I guess that didnt work as planned

all the vatos I ever met from Lomas were firme

good shit, Aztec

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Unread post by AztecNinja » February 24th, 2013, 2:20 am

I used to be with a hyna who claimed Lomas, but the vatos from there never claimed the hynas cause they didnt believe in clicks so they could be from there even though they would "ride" with the fellas. So all the Lomas girls end up getting jumped into Pico nuevo, this was around like 91. Theres alot of PN girls form the South San Gabriel/Rosemead area.

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Unread post by advocate » February 24th, 2013, 2:39 am

Aztec-would you consider KAM to be hated just as much as the other Boyle Heights varrios you mentioned?

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Unread post by AztecNinja » February 24th, 2013, 3:39 am

Yeah KAM, is pretty hated too. But being that they are kind of new I didtn include them. Another really hated gang I forgot to mention is the Eastlake boys in LHTS, those fools pretty much had every gang in thearea hating them within the 1st year they were out. I went to Lincoln High School in 1990 and those fools were like 20 deep in school and like 35 deep after just posting at the liquor store across the street. They would bang on everyone. Throwing signs at cops and everything . them fools were wild back in the day.

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Unread post by MARTINEZ » February 25th, 2013, 11:03 am

Aztec

tell me about EastLake Boys

I only ran into one or two at the most during my tour of duties in the mid 1980s thru early/mid 90's

they were just blowing up in the late 1980's

i beieve they took a good chuck of East Side Clovers varrio

and they had and still have firme hit-ups /placasos by Lincoln Park

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Unread post by judastaugamma » February 25th, 2013, 4:42 pm

martinez, do you know why cherrieville got the verde?

80's was before taxes no?

was there a specific incident that got them the greenlight? or just a case of them beefing with more connected varrios?

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Unread post by Coup » February 25th, 2013, 5:46 pm

^^I always thought P12 were the big boys in that whole Pomona, Upland area.

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Unread post by judastaugamma » February 25th, 2013, 6:30 pm

Coup wrote:^^I always thought P12 were the big boys in that whole Pomona, Upland area.
sharkies are.

cherrieville pomona is their oldest rival.

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Unread post by MARTINEZ » February 26th, 2013, 9:35 am

[quote="judastaugamma"]martinez, do you know why cherrieville got the verde?

80's was before taxes no?

was there a specific incident that got them the greenlight? quote]

i actually do ^^

lets just say it was a case of mistaken identity, where Cherryville fucked up


im sure you can figure out the rest

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MARTINEZ wrote:
judastaugamma wrote:martinez, do you know why cherrieville got the verde?

80's was before taxes no?

was there a specific incident that got them the greenlight? quote]

i actually do ^^

lets just say it was a case of mistaken identity, where Cherryville fucked up


im sure you can figure out the rest


There was no mistake about it. It was intentional. What's really fucked up is, most people would have done the same fucking thing.

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Unread post by AztecNinja » February 27th, 2013, 1:40 am

Before they became a Varrio, ELB was like a hybrid group. In the 80's they had stoner, punk rock, football team types of vatos. They didnt necessarily go after young cholos that is how they sprung up so fast with big numbers. They didnt discriminate, if you lived in the hood and wanted to be down u were accepted. I believe their first beef was with Sereno. They stepped in right when ESC was dwindling and they came on real hard. That liquor store across form Lincoln HS and the burger stand is where they kicked it, also if you all the way up the hill on Eastlake Ave its like a one way in one way out street with one of the best views of LA, good spot to set up shop. Because of their number of youngsters they were running wild, they could've had LHTS on lock if they had some veteran leadership, One of them fools shot a cop right on the hill on EastLake ave and u know what happens then.

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Unread post by MARTINEZ » February 27th, 2013, 7:33 am

@ oso - you from Cherryville?


@ aztec - good shit on EastLake Boys ... you staying in East Los again?


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Unread post by AztecNinja » February 27th, 2013, 8:24 am

Naw, I just moved to the heart of Sangra. To tell u the truth Im rarely on that side, Im in LHTS and HLP alot though.

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Unread post by MARTINEZ » March 1st, 2013, 7:22 am

Coup wrote:^^I always thought P12 were the big boys in that whole Pomona, Upland area.
The 12th Street Sharkies are the big boys in Pomona

P~12st are the oldest, the most active (imo) and got a hella of good repa as varrio



Cherryville was brought up because they had the verde, there'fore associated with being "the most hated"

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